Comments on: The Toronto Maple Leafs – Forever Losers? http://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:41:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Doughttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-3119 Doug Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:50:52 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-3119 Visit the website, and sign up to become of Leafs' new ownership team. Yes, this is serious. We got two mentions last night during game 6 of Stanley Cup Finals on Hockey Night In Canada! Visit the website, and sign up to become of Leafs’ new ownership team. Yes, this is serious. We got two mentions last night during game 6 of Stanley Cup Finals on Hockey Night In Canada!

]]> By: Has the Kessel Trade Backfired Already? | The Puck Doctorshttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-433 Has the Kessel Trade Backfired Already? | The Puck Doctors Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:50:37 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-433 [...] guilty of a little Leafs bashing here at The Puck Doctors every once in a while (case in point, Gesner’s post a few months back), but with the Maple Leafs floundering in 14th place in the East, it’s high time to question [...] [...] guilty of a little Leafs bashing here at The Puck Doctors every once in a while (case in point, Gesner’s post a few months back), but with the Maple Leafs floundering in 14th place in the East, it’s high time to question [...]

]]> By: tom kurelekhttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-284 tom kurelek Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:38:33 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-284 the management of the toronto maple leafs is the problem. think back from 1967 to present 2000's all the great players and goalies too many to list hear. but i could mention all the inadequate managers owners presidents who screwed up forever the great players and teams of the maple leafs. easy to remember and sign off these losers ballard imlach ferguson the list goes on and on of poor management. no wonder scotty bowman turned down the offer of managing the leafs!!! good luck maple sports and entertainment you are going to need it into the middle of the 2000's. R.I.P haaarrrolllld!!!!! the management of the toronto maple leafs is the problem. think back from 1967 to present 2000′s all the great players and goalies too many to list hear. but i could mention all the inadequate managers owners presidents who screwed up forever the great players and teams of the maple leafs. easy to remember and sign off these losers ballard imlach ferguson the list goes on and on of poor management. no wonder scotty bowman turned down the offer of managing the leafs!!! good luck maple sports and entertainment you are going to need it into the middle of the 2000′s. R.I.P haaarrrolllld!!!!!

]]> By: Max Tcheyanhttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Max Tcheyan Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:11:38 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-157 I have a very cool writing opportunity involving NHL.com and Bleacher Report that I would like to offer you. Please get back to me at max@bleacherreport.com as soon as possible and I'd be happy to set up a phone call to explain more. Hope to hear from you.Thanks, Max Tcheyan Featured Columnist Manager Bleacher Report I have a very cool writing opportunity involving NHL.com and Bleacher Report that I would like to offer you. Please get back to me at max@bleacherreport.com as soon as possible and I’d be happy to set up a phone call to explain more. Hope to hear from you.

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]]> By: Sarah Milleryhttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Sarah Millery Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:32:59 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-155 I have just finished reading another article about the leafs that was posted a year ago, and can confirm that you could cut and paste the entire article, change the date, and you will think you are reading about the current plight of the Leafs. I just dont understand what has happened since Pat Q left, and that's not saying that everything he did was right!I guess its early days, but really, I am losing it, and losing it very quickly:( I have just finished reading another article about the leafs that was posted a year ago, and can confirm that you could cut and paste the entire article, change the date, and you will think you are reading about the current plight of the Leafs. I just dont understand what has happened since Pat Q left, and that’s not saying that everything he did was right!

I guess its early days, but really, I am losing it, and losing it very quickly:(

]]> By: Leafershttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Leafers Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:49:56 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-149 It's called faith - Gesner, the glass is half full.P.S - Clockwork Orange sucks It’s called faith – Gesner, the glass is half full.

P.S – Clockwork Orange sucks

]]> By: JChttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-148 JC Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:42:50 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-148 Well put buddy, I live in Ottawa and its a similar deal here just on smaller scale. Well put buddy, I live in Ottawa and its a similar deal here just on smaller scale.

]]> By: Chuckhttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Chuck Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:31:28 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-147 I think the same can be said for Canuck fans, or fans of other Canadian hockey franchises, like the Habs, Flames, etc.. I can say that this is the case for Canuck fans because I am one myself, and have been subjected to several years of choking in the playoffs or just prior to the playoffs. But without fail, GM Place sells out every game, and every year I hear my fellow Canuck fans saying "This is the year". Hell, I even save up my paycheques and buy tickets, so try my darndest to get my hands on some, at any cost. And I watch, along with my Canuck fan brethren, all 82 games and every playoff game, and share in their immense disappointment every time the penalties or bad goaltending catch up to us. And yet, year after year, we cheer the Canucks on, even after decades of failure. I dont want to use "faith" because of the religious taint it puts on being a fan of a team, but hell, what other reason can you give for the dedication of Canucks, Leafs, and other Canadian teams fans?We are all fools. I think the same can be said for Canuck fans, or fans of other Canadian hockey franchises, like the Habs, Flames, etc..
I can say that this is the case for Canuck fans because I am one myself, and have been subjected to several years of choking in the playoffs or just prior to the playoffs. But without fail, GM Place sells out every game, and every year I hear my fellow Canuck fans saying “This is the year”. Hell, I even save up my paycheques and buy tickets, so try my darndest to get my hands on some, at any cost. And I watch, along with my Canuck fan brethren, all 82 games and every playoff game, and share in their immense disappointment every time the penalties or bad goaltending catch up to us. And yet, year after year, we cheer the Canucks on, even after decades of failure. I dont want to use “faith” because of the religious taint it puts on being a fan of a team, but hell, what other reason can you give for the dedication of Canucks, Leafs, and other Canadian teams fans?

We are all fools.

]]> By: JChttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-145 JC Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:16:14 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-145 I feel as a hockey fan I need to defend this article. I am a die hard fan, a die hard Penguins fan. I have been fortunate enough to see my team win the cup three times in my life. I have also seen the Pens finish in the cellar five times. The Penguins clearly tanked on purpose so they could lose now and win later. The Maple Leafs brass has clearly never heard the expression you need to lose before you can win. Or they ignore it. The Maple Leafs have a huge advantage over ever other NHL team. They could tank ten seasons in a row and still sell out every game. The Leafs could have had Taveres last year if they wanted, they just needed to tank the season. When the Penguins were in tank mode they traded away or let the following players walk: Martin Straka, Alex Kovalev, Jaromir Jagr, Robert Lang, Darius Kasparitis, Michal Rozsival, Jan Hrdina, Andrew Ference. They replaced these guys with Alexander Daigle, Kent Manderville and Dick Tarnstrom. The end result was Pittsburgh drafting Ryan Whitney, Marc Andre Fleury, Evgeni Malkin, Sidney Crosby and Jordan Staal. That is how you build a team, and for Pittsburgh they were getting 11000 fans a game at this time. Not easy for a team to withstand and they did it. So why can't the Leafs tank? They make a ton of money still and build a team the right way. I remember the good old days of 2003-04 when Leaf fans used to make fun of me for being a Pens fan, I would say "you watch, within five years the Penguins will win a cup. I guaranteed it. They delivered. I thought the Leafs were going in a good direction hiring Brian Burke, drafting Schenn and Kadri, then they got impatient. Instead of subtracting and trading Kaberle for the future, who won't be a leaf by the time they turn it around. The got impatient signed free agents to big contracts, and traded away first round picks. A huge no-no. How can the Leafs justify the fifth highest payroll (look it up http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/) in the league when the Penguins brought back almost the same team for almost seven million less in real dollars. Free agency should be used to plug holes on your team, not build your team. Leaf Nation is dedicated, I have no doubts. They have the strongest fan base in hockey. But they are also impatient. They want to win now. But MLSE exploits this, they remain a model NHL franchise at the box office and the turnstiles, but when it comes to hockey moves they remain clueless and mediocre. My point is this, the Leafs are a business, a money making machine. Richard Peddie has zero interest in the cup and might not know what it is, he just cares how far in the black the Leafs bottom line is. The average fan means nothing to them because they will remain a fan regardless. For the Penguins they are a team for the fans, if they don't perform they fans don't show. Die hard fans are great but it allows a franchise like the Leafs to settle for mediocrity . I feel as a hockey fan I need to defend this article. I am a die hard fan, a die hard Penguins fan. I have been fortunate enough to see my team win the cup three times in my life. I have also seen the Pens finish in the cellar five times. The Penguins clearly tanked on purpose so they could lose now and win later. The Maple Leafs brass has clearly never heard the expression you need to lose before you can win. Or they ignore it.
The Maple Leafs have a huge advantage over ever other NHL team. They could tank ten seasons in a row and still sell out every game. The Leafs could have had Taveres last year if they wanted, they just needed to tank the season. When the Penguins were in tank mode they traded away or let the following players walk: Martin Straka, Alex Kovalev, Jaromir Jagr, Robert Lang, Darius Kasparitis, Michal Rozsival, Jan Hrdina, Andrew Ference. They replaced these guys with Alexander Daigle, Kent Manderville and Dick Tarnstrom. The end result was Pittsburgh drafting Ryan Whitney, Marc Andre Fleury, Evgeni Malkin, Sidney Crosby and Jordan Staal. That is how you build a team, and for Pittsburgh they were getting 11000 fans a game at this time. Not easy for a team to withstand and they did it. So why can’t the Leafs tank? They make a ton of money still and build a team the right way.
I remember the good old days of 2003-04 when Leaf fans used to make fun of me for being a Pens fan, I would say “you watch, within five years the Penguins will win a cup. I guaranteed it. They delivered.
I thought the Leafs were going in a good direction hiring Brian Burke, drafting Schenn and Kadri, then they got impatient. Instead of subtracting and trading Kaberle for the future, who won’t be a leaf by the time they turn it around. The got impatient signed free agents to big contracts, and traded away first round picks. A huge no-no.
How can the Leafs justify the fifth highest payroll (look it up http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/) in the league when the Penguins brought back almost the same team for almost seven million less in real dollars. Free agency should be used to plug holes on your team, not build your team.
Leaf Nation is dedicated, I have no doubts. They have the strongest fan base in hockey. But they are also impatient. They want to win now. But MLSE exploits this, they remain a model NHL franchise at the box office and the turnstiles, but when it comes to hockey moves they remain clueless and mediocre.
My point is this, the Leafs are a business, a money making machine. Richard Peddie has zero interest in the cup and might not know what it is, he just cares how far in the black the Leafs bottom line is. The average fan means nothing to them because they will remain a fan regardless. For the Penguins they are a team for the fans, if they don’t perform they fans don’t show. Die hard fans are great but it allows a franchise like the Leafs to settle for mediocrity .

]]> By: Doug Gilmorehttp://thepuckdoctors.com/2009/10/the-toronto-maple-leafs-forever-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Doug Gilmore Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:00:51 +0000 http://thepuckdoctors.com/?p=850#comment-144 Leafs suck so face it guys, there is nothing that can be said but leafs blow. Leafs suck so face it guys, there is nothing that can be said but leafs blow.

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